Everybody seems to love Sue Gunderson. She's the Executive Director of CLEARCorps and she has no lead-paint agenda. She won't hold any of us hostage with a diatribe about lead paint litigation or lead-safe v lead-free.
CLEARCorps, a nonprofit, was originally established to help reduce the hazards of lead paint for children. "But it's not about the lead," Gunderson tells everyone - funding sources like the National Paint and Coatings Association [NPCA], federal and state agencies, regulators, landlords, healthcare providers, caregivers, ministers and anyone else who will listen. What the "it" is is healthy homes. And what healthy homes are about is a wholistic approach to how we all live.
Gunderson's reputation intrigued me so I decided to interview her. My school of communications believes in short takes so this exclusive interview is one of several on my two syndicated blogs, this one and the other one.
JG: You have street cred and cred among CLEARCorps sponsors. I was taken with that. So here we are having a conversation not about lead for lead paint watchers. Thank you for taking the time for this exclusive interview.
SG: Actually, I want to thank you , Jane, for this exposure. Your blogs give CLEARCorps the chance to be out there - and yes, plead for funds. We non-profits, just like political leaders, have to be constantly raising money. And, just like businesspeople, we face unprecedented competition in obtaining donations.
JG: That's what I've heard: There's increased competition for both corporate and individual donations. So, let's hope we can touch some hearts.
What fascinated me about the "Sue Gunderson Brand" was that you transformed CLEARCorps, ahead of the curve, from a focus on lead paint to one on healthy homes. And, you're known as someone who gets there into the homes and rolls up your sleeves.
SG: Of course. As for the mission part, it has to be about the people we help and what kind of help would really help them. And, Jane, the worst place for a change agent is to be in the office. It was by getting in homes with the people that I immediately saw that lead was a piece, and often a small piece, of what was making a family sick - and hopeless, therefore helpless.
JG: When CLEARCorps uses the term "family," you mean a very broad understanding of a group, right.
SG: Yes. To us, a family is as small as a man and his cat or as large as four generations of blood and non-blood "relatives." They're together to help them survive, and hopefully, thrive.
JG: So, what did you find in these homes?
SG: Trouble. All kinds of trouble. In my book, that included and still includes:
- Lead paint, yes. And not only on the walls but on toys bought at discount stores. The problem of the lead paint that was on the walls and flakes off frequently happens because the landlord hasn't maintained that paint or hasn't fixed the leaky roof. And those leaks cause the paint to deteriorate in the first place. This reality isn't brought out in the litigation about lead paint.
- Cockroaches. They are major triggers for allergies, especially the surge in childhood asthma.
- Those leaky rooms again. Expect any health hazard from mold to dampness.
- Unsafe furnaces. Everyone is in danger of dying from carbon monoxide poisoning or living without heat because of unaffordable heat bills.
- Abusive relationships. That sucks out everyone's self-esteem, including that of the abuser.
- Ignorance. That's why our number-one tool is education. You see lots of opportunities for training and just information on our website.
- Isolation. One skill we teach is negotiating the outside world, whether it be calling the electric utility or legal aid or the children's teachers.
JG: After the "diagnosis" is made, what's the solution?
SG: CLEARCorps, just like the Salvation Army, is a grassroots, hands-on organization. We personally extend ourselves into the lives of those who invite us in. No, we're not a mandated service.
Here's what we know: Even the poorest or most abused mother cares about her children. She will listen to what I or another team member might spot as trouble and how we recommend that trouble be eliminated. And she will pitch in right alongside us to make things better in the home.
One mother got to the point at which she was the team leader. She was the one calling this agency or that, the Public Utility Commission to report the electric company, the police to organize a town meeting, and the Board of Education to add crossing guards in the development where her children live.
JG: S. this is analogous to: Teach someone to fish v giving them a fish and they eat for the rest of their lives?
SG: Exactly. But in order to earn the right to teach we first have to earn the trust of that whole community - the ministers, healthcare providers, landlords, teachers, police, EMTs, fire fighters, and the biggest gossips.
JG: How do you do that?
SG: Being there.
JG: In a sense, you Sue Gunderson and CLEARCorps are like the Catholic Church and the settlement house that were in our immigrant neighborhoods. There they were. And there we were, new to America or First Gen Americans. We knew we could go to them. In there we in downtown Jersey City, New Jersey learned to find out how to navigate American society. They were what is now called "The Third Place." We had our homes and school or work. Then we had those "The Third Places" where we felt safe to get what we needed - whether that was social skills, food, mentoring, or someone to walk us home in the dark.
SG: I never thought about CLEARCorps as that "The Third Place." But that certainly is a great way to think about it. I want to assume that those whose lives we touch feel "safe" to reach out and take what they need.
JG: As I said, I, just like the new WALL STREET JOURNAL, believe in short takes. So, I'm going to call this a wrap. There will be more on CLEARCorps and the Sue Gunderson Brand. But first, Gunderson will give you information where you can send your donation. CLEARCorps is a 501CE Nonprofit. That means your generous contribution is tax-deductible.
SG: Please send what you can to CLEARCorps USA, 1522 Albany Avenue, St. Paul, MN 55108. Contact me, too. You can reach me at Sue@Clearcorps.org or 651-603-8000. And thank you, both you, Jane, for giving us this exposure and to anyone who helps CLEARCorps help families make their homes healthy.